CO129-590-11 Commission of Enquiry into irregularities in Immigration Departments 22-4-1941 - 19-12-1941 — Page 294

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By a secured cashier, or by being paid into the Treasury.

When you became aware of that state of affairs did you recommend

that a secured cashier be obtained in my department?

A. I recommended that your cashier should be secured.

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You did not indicate where a secured cashier could be found?

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At the last hearing I think I put to you a question regarding times

of day which I endorsed on the vouchers to the Treasury in respect

of refunds of deposits. Have you verified that fact?

I have seen vouchers with the times written on them.

If I tell you the ordinary number of hours required between the time

the vouchers were signed by me and a cheque was received from the

Treasury was something like four hours, would that be right?

You were lucky to get your money in that time. We have to make

certain that the money is in order and duly supported by vouchers.

You realize that after I receive the cheque there is the further

stage when the cheque has to be cashed: altogether five hours must

e lapse. That means that within the limits of a certain imprest

account a certain daily turnover must be allowed for: there must be

a very considerable amount kept in cash in the office at one time?

What do you consider a considerable amount?

I am talking with reference to the amounts which my shroffs are

secured. The amounts kept to bridge that gap of five hours must be

considerably in excess of the $10,000?

I don't agree. These figures have been put to me for the first time

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Well, I think eight hours a day is the normal office time. If my

turnover is $8,000 a day?

Your turnover is not $8,000 a day from the point of view we are now

considering. We are considering the repayment of deposits which is

on an average, shall we say, $4,000 a day.

Repayment? But the intake also was $4,000?

Yes, but we are not considering that. You have only to keep money

for the repayment of deposits.

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